“One of the things I’m most proud of in my life is that I never let my dream die.”
Overcoming Adversity: Terry Tucker’s Story of Survival
Overcoming adversity is rarely a single moment of courage. More often, it’s a string of small, unremarkable decisions made on the worst days. That’s the throughline of Terry Tucker’s story: a former college basketball player who became a police officer at 37, fought cancer for 14 years, lost a leg to the disease, and turned the entire experience into a framework for mental resilience. He shared it in conversation with host Dr. Jim Price.
Terry’s path didn’t start with the diagnosis. It started earlier, moving back home after college to help his mother care for a dying father and grandmother at the same time — in adjoining rooms. He watched his mother handle it without complaint, and that example became the blueprint for how he’d later handle his own health crisis.
Success vs. Significance
One of the clearest ideas in Terry’s story is the split between success and significance. Success, he explains, is what you build for yourself. Significance is what you build for other people — and it tends to matter longer. That distinction shaped both of his books: one built around ten principles for excellence, the other around using hardship to influence someone else.
The Hemingway Line He Lives By
Terry returns often to a line from Ernest Hemingway: life breaks everyone, and afterward many are stronger at the broken places. It’s not abstract to him. A healed bone becomes stronger at the fracture point, and he treats personal setbacks the same way — as a spot to rebuild from, not a stopping point.
A Story He Didn’t Know He Was Telling
The most striking moment comes from a nurse who almost left the profession entirely, until she treated Terry during his own recovery. Watching him show up for difficult treatment day after day gave her a reason to stay in nursing. He never knew he was influencing her until she told him months later.
That’s the real argument at the center of this conversation: overcoming adversity isn’t just personal. Someone is usually watching how you carry it, whether you know it or not.
Hear the full conversation between Dr. Jim Price and Terry Tucker, including his years in law enforcement and the story of playing against a young Michael Jordan: https://tinyurl.com/Progress-and-Purpose-Podcast
Episode Highlights:
02:06 Meet Terry Tucker: The Family That Shaped an Uncommon Life
03:54 What Sports Teach You About Grit and Adversity
06:12 Caring for Dying Parents While Chasing a Law Enforcement Dream
11:33 Inside Sustainable Excellence and Four Truths and a Lie
16:02 The Hemingway Quote and the Nurse Who Almost Quit
20:19 The Night His Team Faced Michael Jordan’s Freshman Year
23:41 Where to Find Terry’s Books and Connect Online
Resources:
Books Mentioned:
📖Four Truths and a Lie: Ancient Wisdom For Living Your Modern Purpose by Terry Tucker
📖 The Adventures of Harold from the Hood Book Series:
🚙A Trip to the Park: https://bit.ly/40Lvv6h
🤝🏽Friends Like Different Things: https://bit.ly/4ocAQxq
🍟 Fun Time Lunch Time: https://bit.ly/4odUCJ1
😤 When I Feel So Annoyed: https://bit.ly/4l6WSPt
Meet Terry:
Terry Tucker is a leadership, mindset, and motivation expert whose message has reached audiences worldwide through more than 750 podcast, radio, and TV appearances. A former NCAA Division I basketball player at The Citadel, Terry earned his master’s degree from Boston University before building a diverse career that includes roles as a marketing executive, SWAT Hostage Negotiator, business owner, and founder of Motivational Check LLC.
For the past fourteen years, Terry has also taken on his most challenging role—cancer warrior—drawing from that experience to teach others how to live with purpose, resilience, and courage. He is the author of Sustainable Excellence and Four Truths and a Lie, and his work has been featured in Authority, Thrive Global, and Human Capital Leadership magazines.
Quotes:
“It was my parents who gave me the tools necessary and the inspiration to do the best you can. But as you’re doing that, make sure you give back as you go along.” —Terry Tucker
“You learn to be a good teammate, and I think the biggest team game that we all play is this game of life.” —Terry Tucker
“You don’t have to take what somebody says as the way your life is going to be. You are the commander of your life. You decide what’s important. You decide how much you want to work.” —Terry Tucker
“If you’ve got that little bit of grit, it’s amazing how far you can go in your life.” —Terry Tucker
“One of the things I’m most proud of in my life is that I never let my dream die.” —Terry Tucker
“Sometimes, parents will want to live through their kids, through things they haven’t been able to do. But I believe that free will is the way you forge your own destiny, forge your own path.” —Dr. Jim Price
“Success is what we do for ourselves. Significance is what we do for other people.” —Terry Tucker
“If you don’t think the things you’re going through matter, I promise you there are people out there that are watching how you handle your adversity and would give almost everything they have to walk five minutes in your shoes. So don’t think your story doesn’t matter. I don’t care how bad it is. Use your story to influence positively another human being.” —Terry Tucker
“If you really want change to happen in your life, you have to take actionable steps. You have to do something to set forth the plan for that change that you want in your life.” —Dr.Jim Price
“Playing against people that are the best makes you better in life.” —Terry Tucker
“Change can happen when you put your mind to wanting to have active change happen in your life.” —Dr. Jim Price
transcript:
Terry Tucker: Life breaks everyone. And afterward, many are stronger at the broken places. So just like if you were to break your arm, you go to the hospital, the doctor sets the arm, puts it in a cast. When it heals, that arm is going to be stronger. That bone is going to be stronger at the broken spot than the rest of the bone. And that’s a metaphor for life. Life is all. There’s something’s going to beat you to your knees at some point in your life. I don’t think anybody gets away from that. But if you can take that, if you can keep moving forward just one step, it doesn’t have to be major leaps and bounds, but one step. Eventually, you’re going to come out the other end stronger, more able to handle challenges, being able to handle adversity in your life.
Dr. Jim Price: Hello, I’m Dr. Jim Price, and welcome to The Purpose and Progress Podcast. This is the place where we explore how purpose can guide our actions, and how growth can become a part of our everyday lives. On the show, I talk with amazing guests, from educators and creators to everyday people with extraordinary stories about the challenges they face, the lessons they’ve learned, and how to keep moving forward. My goal is to share conversations that inspire you to live intentionally, embrace growth, and take meaningful steps to your own purpose. Let’s get started.
Hello, I’m your host, Dr. Price, and this is The Purpose And Progress Podcast show where we share inspirational stories about inspirational people from all walks of life, all different industries, and we look to motivate, inspire, change, and inspire people to want to grow personally in their lives and stuff. And today is no different. We have a fabulous guest today. He is a former NCAA Division 1 basketball player, SWAT Hostage Negotiator, Author, and cancer warrior who spent the last 14 years navigating significant health challenges. Through these experiences, he developed a powerful approach to mindset resilience and purposeful living centered around four truths, controlling your mind, embracing adversity as a source of strength, understanding the impact you leave on others, and refusing to quit. He is the author of having appeared on numerous podcasts, radio, and television and positive perspectives on overcoming adversity, developing mental strength, and creating an uncommon and meaningful life. So today, we have Terry Tucker. Glad to have you on the show, Terry.
Terry Tucker: Well, Jim, thanks for having me on. I’m really looking forward to talking with you today.
Dr. Jim Price: Yeah. It’s such a blessing to have you. We’ll talk a little bit before the show and everything. Talk about our connection. You play basketball, I play basketball. How you live in Springfield and the Hall of Fame stuff, I was like, we have a unique connection in that way. I want to start by asking, in terms of, people see the success, we are talking about that too. People see success, but they don’t always see and know the story behind it. So for you, where do you feel your journey started? What inspired or influenced you in that way?
Terry Tucker: Sure. I hate to go back, but it was my parents. I am the oldest of three boys. You can’t tell this from looking at me or from my voice, but I’m six foot eight inches tall. As you mentioned, I played college basketball at the Citadel. I’ve got another brother who’s six foot seven who pitched for the University of Notre Dame. Another brother who’s six foot six who was drafted by the Cleveland Cavaliers in the National Basketball Association. And then my dad was six five. So we used to joke growing up that if you sat behind our family in church, there wasn’t a prayer chance you were going to see anything that was going on at the front of the church because we were all so tall. But it was our five foot eight inch mother that was really the boss. It didn’t matter how big, tall, strong we were, it was really our mom who set the standard. Our mom and dad used to do what I called divide and conquer parenting. I’d have a game on Thursday night at 5:00 o’clock at this location, and my brother would have a practice at 5:00 o’clock on Thursday night at that location. So dad’s taking me, mom’s taking my brother. And our whole family revolved around sports. I had a great childhood growing up, but it was really my parents that gave me the tools, I guess, necessary and the inspiration to do the best you can. But as you’re doing that, make sure you give back as you go along.
Dr. Jim Price: And it’s interesting because parents teach us things, and sports teach us a lot of things too, like being teammates and doing those things. Can you talk about, maybe in terms of like sport, being part of sports in that aspect, what are some of the things you probably feel you learn in that domain when you’re a teammate and working through those things?
Terry Tucker: You’re absolutely right. You learn to be a good teammate. And I think the biggest team game that we all play is this game of life. So certainly, being a good teammate, but also how to be coachable. You know how to take criticism, how to be a leader, how to handle adversity in your life when things aren’t going right. I had three knee surgeries in high school and was told after the second one that more than likely my basketball playing days were over. Now, I could have accepted that. Or as I did, I’m like, no. The doctor doesn’t know my heart. He doesn’t know my spirit. I’m going to try to fight back. I’m going to try to make it back on the court. And I was lucky enough to do that. I think prayer had a lot to do with that. Prayer on my side. And certainly, my mother’s prayers and things like that. But you just don’t have to take what somebody says as that’s the way your life is going to be. You are the commander of your life. You decide what’s important. You decide how much you want to work and things like that. And honestly, Jim, I’ve seen a lot of people in my life that they’re not willing to put in the time, they’re not disciplined enough to do that. And I think if you have just a little bit of grit, I always like the saying from Jerry Rice who said, today I will do what others won’t, so that tomorrow I can do what others can’t. So if you’ve got that little bit of grit, it’s amazing how far you can go in your life.
Dr. Jim Price: Wow, that’s amazing. And it’s interesting because that also includes work ethic. I counsel middle school kids, so they have their basketball stuff going on with interim basketball and all that, and someone will be like, are you practicing? And their replies, I’m already nice. I mean, you’re probably not gonna improve much. So work ethic and all those things can definitely be a part of that. Can you go into maybe some of your challenges or obstacles that you face going through the process of getting to where you are today?
Terry Tucker: Sure. I graduated from college. I’m the first person in my family to go to college. First person in my family to graduate from college. I moved home to find a job. I’m really going to date myself, Jim, but this was long before the internet was available to help people find employment. So I moved home, and I was very lucky. My first job out of college was in the corporate headquarters of Wendy’s International, the hamburger chain, in their marketing department. That was the good news. The bad news was I lived with my parents for the next three and a half years as I helped my mother care for my father and my grandmother who were both dying of different forms of cancer. So here I am, a college graduate, I’m going to set the world on fire. And now, I’m going to sleep in the same bed I slept in when I was in high school helping my mom. But as we started out this conversation, my parents gave my brothers and I the foundation to be successful in life. So now it was my turn to give back to them. That was an incredible challenge, incredible three years. And I think it was bad for me.
But I think back on my mom. In one room, her mother was dying. And in the room right next door, her husband was dying. And they died within 18 months of each other. I can’t imagine how hard that must have been for her to go through that. She never whined, she never complained, she never made excuses. She just handled what needed to be handled, and so that kind of set up things in my life. I was a young adult when that occurred. I wanted to be in law enforcement, but my dad was diametrically opposed to it. His father, my grandfather, my paternal grandfather, had been a Chicago police officer from 1924 to 1954. And in 1933 when my dad was one year old, my grandfather was shot in the line of duty with his own gun. It was not a serious injury. He was shot in the ankle. But my dad remembered the stories that my grandmother told of that knock on the door, Mrs. Tucker, grabbed your son. Come with us. Your husband’s been shot. So when I wanted to follow in his footsteps, my dad was, absolutely not. You’re going to college. You’re going to major in business. You’re going to get out, get a great job, get married, have 2.4 kids and live happily ever after. But that’s the life my father wanted me to live. That’s not the life I wanted. And Jim, I’ll tell you this, I became a police officer at 37 years old, which is pretty old to be getting in that line of work. But it’s one of the things I’m most proud of in my life that I never let my dream die. My dad didn’t want me to do it. I graduated from college, so I had the first big adult decision in my life. I could have said, you know what, dad? Know you’re dying. Sorry about that, but I’m going to go do my own thing. I’m going to blaze my own trail. Or out of love and respect for you, I will do what you want me to do. So my first couple jobs were in business because it’s what dad wanted me to do. And at 37, I made that major pivot in my life, followed my dreams and became a police officer.
Dr. Jim Price: Wow. And a lot of times, that’s what ends up happening. Sometimes, parents will want to live through things they haven’t been able to do and stuff like that. Even myself, I’m six five myself. And my daughter, she’s 15, but she’s almost up to my shoulder. She gets a lot of talks about, hey, come over here for a little camp and stuff. But she’s not interested in that. I would never push it upon her because she’s got to forge her own path and her own destiny. I think sometimes, that does tend to be what ends up happening. Everybody has their own parenting style, and some works, and some works for others. But I definitely believe that free will is the way to forge your own destiny, forge your own path. And it makes it more comfortable for the whole family dynamic in that way.
Terry Tucker: It does. I’m of the generation, I hate to say this, but if I would have told my dad, hey, I’m going to grow a mustache or a beard. My dad’s response would have been, Where are you going to live? That would have been it. There would have been no discussion, no talk about it or anything like that. But that’s the way parenting was done back then. As you say, you move forward. Now why do you want to do that? Or what’s precipitating? You try to dig a little bit deeper, I think, as a parent to try to get well because that person has a beard or a mustache, and they’re getting noticed or popular. This isn’t about growing a beard or a mustache. This is about you being popular. We’ve uncovered why they want to do it, and then we can go from that as a parent.
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Dr. Jim Price: Everybody, you know the experiences, you go through the experiences of life, and it shapes you, informs you, and you develop different insights and understandings through the experiences of life. A lot of those spirits help you grow, and nurture, and shape who you are overall in your perspective of the world and stuff like that. Another thing that’s interesting, you are an author. I know I mentioned the books, and I would just love for you to tell the audience a little bit about both of your books, the premise of them, and just a little bit about that.
Terry Tucker: I know you’re an award-winning author as well. And I don’t know about you, but my author journey, my high school English teacher would roll over in his grave if you told him that I was an author. Let alone two books. And I always felt that they’re books that were inspired by something bigger than me. I have a very strong faith in God, and I think they were really inspired by God. The first one, Sustainable Excellence, was a book that was really born out of two conversations I had. One was with a former player. Another job I had in life as I was a high school girls basketball coach, and one of my point guards moved to the area in Colorado where my wife and I live with her fiance, and the four of us had dinner one night. And I remember saying to her after dinner that I was excited that she was living close, and I could watch her find and live her purpose. Jim, she got real quiet for a while. And then she looked at me and she said, well, coach, what do you think my purpose is? I said, I have absolutely no idea what your purpose is, but that’s what your life should be about finding the reason you were put on the face of this earth. And there is a reason. And then living that reason. So that was one conversation.
Then I had a young man in college reach out and said, what do you think of the most important things I should learn, not just to be successful in life or successful in business, but to be successful in life? And I didn’t want to give them that, get out early, work hard. I didn’t want to give them the sort of cliches that we already know so I started taking some notes. And eventually had these 10 thoughts, these 10 ideas, these 10 principles. So I sent them to them. And then I sat back and was like, well, I got a life story that fits underneath that principle. Or I know somebody whose life emulates this principle. So literally, I had my leg amputated as a result of my cancer experience in 2020. And the five months that I was healing after that, I sat down at the computer every day and built stories under each of those principles. That’s how sustainable excellence came to be. The second book was really an extension. was about success, something we do for ourselves. Kind of like you because I’ve listened to your story. There was another book in you that also began with a word that started with the letter S, and that was significant. Success is what we do for ourselves. Significance is what we do for other people. So my latest book now, Four Truths and a Lie, is more about significance and how we can make an impact in the world.
Dr. Jim Price: Wow, that’s so powerful. The word significance, that just holds so much power within just the dynamic of that. I know people sometimes lack that motivation and inspiration to feel like they can overcome adversity and obstacles in their lives and stuff like that. And it definitely can be challenging in that way where you’re trying to find the footing, or trying to find the direction to overcome the obstacles, overcome the hurdles and stuff like that. I love how you attach it to giving honor and praise to God too for being that open up. I definitely pray for every aspect of things that go on every door that opens. I always make sure I give thanks and say, hey, thank you, Lord, for opening up the doors of opportunity for so many wonderful things to happen. And also trying to understand that praying for healing in the world. There’s so many people dealing with trauma and stuff. You are definitely an example of overcoming adversity and stuff, so that’s absolutely fabulous right there. And if you were to say in terms of maybe people who are trying to overcome their own adversity and maybe feeling like they’re stuck, some people get to the point where they’re stuck and feeling like there’s no way to overcome obstacles. People say things like, get over it. Or there’s light at the end of the tunnel, but it’s still a process. It’s still a process to get from A to B, especially when you’re feeling like you’re stuck in life and things are kind of stagnant, and there’s no real prosperity or growth, and you’re wondering why, and trying to navigate that. What would you say to the audience about those kinds of things in terms of dealing with that kind of stuff?
Terry Tucker: That’s a great question. Since we’re on the book topic, I’ll use a quote from a book. And I think about this almost every day. Ernest Hemingway wrote a book called A Farewell to Arms. And in that book is a line, like I said, I think about this line almost every day. And the line is this, life breaks everyone. And afterward, many are stronger at the broken places. So if you were to break your arm, you go to the hospital, the doctor sets the arm, and puts it in a cast. When it heals, that arm is going to be stronger. That bone is going to be stronger at the broken spot than the rest of the bone. And that’s a metaphor for life. Life is all. There’s something’s going to beat you to your knees at some point in your life. I don’t think anybody gets away from that. But if you can take that, if you can keep moving forward just one step, it doesn’t have to be major leaps and bounds, but one step. Eventually, you’re going to come out the other end stronger. More able to handle challenges, being able to handle adversity in your life. And let me end with this story. And this happened probably a couple years ago. I was being treated for my cancer. I was in an infusion center, and there was a young nurse there, about 25 years old. Already a nurse, but was learning how to do things on this unit. And about six months later, she was taking care of me by herself. And she came into the room and said, Terry, I’ve got a story I want to tell you, but I don’t know how to tell it to you. Jim, how do you respond to that? It’s like, well, I hope you decide you want to tell it to me because I’m sure I enjoy it.
So she’s in and out for the next couple hours. Finally comes in, sits down. She’s like, all right, here’s the story. She said, when I first met you, I was going to get out of nursing. I’d had a very good friend of mine die. I was in a really dark place. I told my family that I was going to quit nursing. I was going to go to work for Amazon. Then I met you, and I see what you go through. I had a terrible reaction to the medicine I was given. And she said, but you come back every single day. You take the medicine. And then when I was taking care of you, I went back in your file and read that you had your foot amputated. You had the leg amputated. You’ve done all these drug therapies. When I finished reading your story, I knew I was where I was supposed to be. Now, Jim, if she would have never told me that story, I would have had no idea that just the way I was living my life, just the way I was showing up, was an inspiration to this young woman. So whoever is listening to us, if you don’t think your life matters, if you don’t think the things you’re going through matter, I promise you, there are people out there that are watching how you handle your adversity and will give almost everything they have to walk five minutes in your shoes. So don’t think your story doesn’t matter. I don’t care how bad it is. Use your story to positively influence another human being.
Dr. Jim Price: Wow, that’s so powerful. And it is. It’s about not being afraid of getting out of your comfort zone, and understanding that if you really want change to happen in your life, you have to take actionable steps. You have to do something to set forth the plan for that change that you want in your life. I know a lot of people do that. They’re stagnant and kind of almost make excuses for not wanting to make an excuse for the changes that they want, but not taking the actionable steps towards those things. That can be so much when you’re talking about trying to progress and make changes, and grow, and nurture yourself in that way where you’re being productive and can see the results of your work that you put in when you’re moving forth and doing these things, and put into action the steps to be able to reach the goals that you’re trying to attain and stuff like that. But that is so powerful. I know we talked about basketball a little bit. This is kind of just a sign bar, but I was like, in terms of your basketball experiences, what would you say was one of your more remembered experiences when you were actively playing
Terry Tucker: In my senior year at the Citadel, my small school, the Citadel and Furman University, which is in Greenville, South Carolina, were asked to play in what was called the North South doubleheader. It was two teams from South Carolina, which I said were the Citadel and Furman. And two teams from North Carolina, which just happened to be North Carolina and North Carolina State. And we played in a round robin on a Friday and Saturday night in the Charlotte Coliseum. So Friday night, we played North Carolina, Michael Jordan’s freshman year. And so Michael Jordan was not the Michael Jordan we all knew at the time. James Worthy was the gun at that time. So we play them, we lose to them, but they go on that year, 1982, to win the national championship. And then Saturday night, we played against North Carolina State and Jim Valvano’s team. The following year, 1983, they would go on to win the national championship. So unbeknownst to us on just a typical weekend in February, we play two national championship teams, but I’ll give you a funny story.
My youngest brother, who I mentioned pitched for Notre Dame, has been a high school basketball coach in Chicago for, I don’t know, his entire career. He’s in the Illinois Hall of Fame. He coached Michael Jordan’s two sons. So he’s at practice one day toward the end of practice. He’s teaching the team a drill, and he looks up. Nobody’s paying attention to what he’s talking about. So he looks where the kids were looking at, which is over at the gym door. And Michael Jordan had walked into the gym as a dad to pick up his kids after school, after practice, and take them home. And so my brother looked at him and said, hey, Michael, you’re a little bit of a distraction. Would you mind waiting out in the hall until practice was over? And Jordan and his wife were incredibly gracious people. And Jordan’s like, yes, coach. I’m sorry, I didn’t mean to interrupt. I’ll wait outside. And my brother thought later, I’m probably the only coach in the history of basketball that ever kicked Michael Jordan out of practice. So it was a great opportunity for him. Playing against people that are the best just makes you better in life, so it was a great experience for me as well.
Dr. Jim Price: You really do through sports. You can make so many great connections, camaraderie and stuff like that. I know I’m past. The game has passed me by too, and I always say I do. Even with a lot of those connections you make, you still maintain those connections even after the game has passed you by. You’re seeing the younger generation do their thing and stuff like that. But that is an incredible story. You know what I mean? I always like that aspect. People tend to not always understand how all those things can fit together with the sports, with the praying, and even making sure you keep in tone with praying to God in your life. And having that mindset to want to overcome adversity, and knowing that you can go outside the box of what you feel comfortable with to be able to make the changes that are necessary to reach goals and benchmarks that you want to reach in your life, so that’s an incredible story.
Terry Tucker: It was a lot of fun.
Dr. Jim Price: We mentioned your books, where can our audience be able to connect, purchase your books and stuff like that?
Terry Tucker: The easiest way is to go online. You can get both books pretty much anywhere online. Amazon would probably be the easiest place to get it. You can go to my website, which is motivationalcheck.com, and it has links to those websites and Amazon. So wherever you get a book online, you can get Sustainable Excellence or Four Truths in a Lie.
Dr. Jim Price: Oh, wonderful. That is so wonderful. You definitely have a very inspiring story, and it’s always good to connect with inspirational people like yourself. The show is about inspiring change, positive change, and growth, and development in life, and overcoming obstacles, and adversity and stuff. This is what the show was about, so you definitely just cover so much of that in terms of your story and journey. I’m thinking that you’re ready to be a part of the show today, Terry, and share your experiences and stuff. So like I always say, this show is about motivating others for positive change, growth and things like that. Taking actions on what you want in your life. And also incorporating prayer in the things you do because that does make a difference in life when you incorporate prayer into the things that you do. So once again, this has been a fabulous conversation. I’m so glad that we had an opportunity to do this show, and have you on the show, Terry. I always like to say, stay motivated, stay inspired. Change can happen when you put your mind to wanting to have active change happen in your life. And I always say, stay prayed up, and stay blessed. Once again, this is your host, Dr. Jim Price. And this is The Purpose And Progress podcast show, and we’ll see you next time. Take care.
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